is Mccain a traitor?

[ichi]

i lifted this entire post from elsewhere (verified its info (mccain's book), made some edits and here it is).

my question is the same as the one at the end, with the addition of the following comment with one caveat; and, that is that i have not studied case law on this issue: the law (cited below) identifies this, Mccain's action, as the crime of treason. the law outlines the punishments and i assume it is certainly a felony thus one recieving even the least end of the punishment is nevertheless branded as Felon. we apply the law and punishment on a case by case basis, i.e., a jury may say you are guilty but refuse punishment or prescribe the lightest available (i am not sure what the venue is in such a case as this specific one, i could guess military for soldiers accused of such or when they were soldiers -- i don't know, mb civilian). clearly, mccain's position in life excluded him from the law. instead, he received, and, imo, is still trying to get awarded for his actions.

(Websters) Traitor : trai-tor noun
1 : one who betrays another's trust or is false to an obligation or duty
2 : one who commits treason

FACTS

At the 2008 RNC, John McCain admits that "they broke me" (in the prison)
By definition : US Code § 2381. Treason:
Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.
(also see United States Code , Title 10, Part II, Chapter 47, Section 904, Article 104)

John McCain aided the enemy, when they "broke him" in that Vietnamese prison. McCain said: "Eventually, I gave them my ship's name and squadron number, and confirmed that my target had been the power plant."

Recalling how he gave up military information to his interrogators, McCain said: "I regret very much having done so; the Code of Conduct for American Prisoners of War orders us to refrain from providing any information beyond our names, rank and serial number." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_United_...of_Conduct
--- Conclusion: John McCain committed Treason against the United States.

Can anyone refute this?

[SgtBaxter]

ichi Wrote:--- Conclusion: John McCain committed Treason against the United States.

Can anyone refute this?

Yes, I can refute it. McCain did not commit treason because he was being tortured. You're supposed to resist to the utmost of your ability. Not everyone has the same ability to resist pain.

[ichi]

SgtBaxter Wrote:You're supposed to resist to the utmost of your ability. Not everyone has the same ability to resist pain.

show me where that is in the law, please.

what i wrote is not my opinion it is the law and those are the facts as i know them.
IF the law, codes, rules, are different or there is more, more that may include what you wrote, show it to me, that's all i asked (Sep. 8), that's all i meant by "refute." i wasn't asking for a poll, a vote or an opinion.

[yoyo52]

This is pure silliness, along the lines of Obama's being a terrorist because he talked to Bill Ayers.

[ichi]

yoyo52 Wrote:This is pure silliness, along the lines of Obama's being a terrorist because he talked to Bill Ayers.

well, if it is about forgiving the worst in ppl, certainly, i hope i could do that and i could forgive that in Mccain.

what i'm interested in, however, is how the complete opposite comes to be, i.e, not forgiveness for the worst but elevation to national wartime hero. that is more than silly, it is absurd and insulting to real heros.

all kinds of analogies could be drawn, e.g., you're a POW, or lay wounded on the field of battle, an enemy soldier puts his barrel to your head and demands the name of and how many are in your unit or you die. or, you and a buddy are captured, or your house is broken into and the intruder puts a gun in your hand and says for you to shoot your neighbor... whatever happens... some jury may find you guilty of manslaughter... but in ANY case you are not rewarded as a hero.

now, i am searching for cases where POWs have been charged with treason for "breaking."

frankly, as far as Mccain goes, there is much more that points to his military matters conduct as poor to say the least, for instance...
"Sydney Schanberg, a Pulitzer prize winner in 1974, asks why John McCain of the Straight Talk express had declared one biogaphical subject "off limits". In fact McCain has fought an "anti-disclosure" campaign against attemtps to explore all Pentagon debriefings of his return from Vietnam.

"Another issue is the number of POWs released after the Paris Peace Accords in 1973. Nixon proclaimed that the 591 prisoners released were all Americans held by the Vietnamese. However, hundreds more have not been accounted for. McCain pushed legislation which has made it impossible to track those prisoners.

"This [url=http://www.vvof.org/mccain_hides.htm]extensive article[url] was published by APBnews and is undated."

when all the Downing St. shit came along Mccain promised he would get to bottom of it. instead, he accepted the ex British PM Blair's semantics, saying, well.. here:
http://www.math.fsu.edu/~trogers/data/po...McCain.pdf

in his book Mccain "talks" plenty but not enough.
here he is reading from his book, then giving it some "straight talk" on that phoney Warren dude.
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i digress from the topic though. maybe a better question would be how many POWs who "talked" were made heroes, given medals for valor?

if it were you or me and the time was now we'd be in Gitmo.

this ain't no popularity contest.

[semiferger]

I agree now here is something to pounder, McCain supported by Palin, and one of our own claimed that McCain was his NEW BEST FRIEND Buddy! I pray that Brown doesnt turn tail and join the status quo and forget that he is a PATRIOT! With all the back-stabbin in both partys, making it so hard for the PEOPLE to trust any of them, yet it is said that a third party would and could not run or win to CLEAN this MESS UP that it would just give the DEMS more Power.

[polymerase]

Is it irony that McCain might be kicked out of office this year in the primaries because of a loony birther Beck type conservative may beat him? Or is it irony that he has called upons Sarah to save him and her blessing has retrieved 20 points of his polling numbers?

Or maybe it isn't irony. It sure would be funny though. McCain is actually a moderate on most things. He doesn't want to run immigrants out of his state on a stick. But his ass kissing he has done to the flaky right may not keep him elected a senator.

I can see why he is now all "don't ask don't tell is good don't touch it". He needs those asshole's votes to stay in power.

[Michael-Adams]

The Asshole Party. That's a more descriptive name, isn't it?